Gucci Mane’s road to redemption continues. After writing his first book, The Autobiography of Gucci Manethe East Atlanta native had a sit down with famed author and journalist Malcolm Gladwell.

Calling Gucci’s story “improbable, but in the best way,” Gladwell and Gucci discuss his time in prison, the reading material he took in while incarcerated, and how the book lit the spark that changed his life.

Check out parts one and two below.